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[edit] Server performance

I'm enjoying having this forum available, but there seems to be a problem with the server. Perhaps half the time it responds at the speed one might expect, but the other half of the time I might have to wait several minutes for it to return. If I have several windows open, they all come back at the same time.

I can detect no discernible pattern as to when the slowness occurs. I've confirmed that the D&D Wiki does not slow down at the same time. I first noticed this yesterday, but I'm guessing it's happened continuously since you set up the site on Sunday. Is there a configuration setting that needs to be tweaked?

Thanks. --Cúthalion 08:27, 6 March 2007 (MST)

Let me know if the problem has been fixed (I modified a few things, it might fixed now, it might not) If any other errors show up, be sure to let me know. --Blue Dragon 13:55, 6 March 2007 (MST)
Sorry, it's no better. Is there anything I can do to help diagnose the problem? Have you noticed any delay on your end? --Cúthalion 20:37, 6 March 2007 (MST)
Hello. Is it still happening? I am not able to notice anything. --Blue Dragon 21:20, 7 March 2007 (MST)
Yes, it happened a few minutes ago. You don't see it? Could it be something with my internet configuration? It's got to be something that's different between WikiRPS and D&D Wiki. --Cúthalion 21:38, 7 March 2007 (MST)
I just got this error message. I wonder if it might be related to the other problem. --Cúthalion 14:17, 10 March 2007 (MST)
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://wikirps.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?

The following error was encountered:

    * Unable to forward this request at this time. 

This request could not be forwarded to the origin server or to any parent caches. The most likely cause for this error is that:

    * The cache administrator does not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers, and
    * All configured parent caches are currently unreachable. 

Your cache administrator is kasimir.
Generated Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:13:27 GMT by tundra.kgprog.com (squid/2.6.STABLE5) 
This error message was generated by Squid and designated that Apache was currently restarting. I was trying to isolate the problem with the browser freezing, and you caught it at a bad moment. This is not a result of the error, but I result of me trying to debug to find the error. As to the error, I have looked at several places and realized that other wikis are experiencing this problem, but none seem to have a solution for it. I will try running diffs from the main release on both D&D Wiki and here, and manually go through and see where the differences are. I will also try seeing if the databases are configured differently, as that could be a problem as well. I will let you know what I find out, and hopefully this problem will be fixed soon. --Blue Dragon (talk) 22:48, 10 March 2007 (MST)
Understood. Thank you for taking the time to look into it. --11:55, 11 March 2007 (MDT)

I don't know if this helps, but I've (tentatively) determined that the delay happens with downloading, not uploading. So, when I click a button, the change goes through immediately, but it might have a delay in reloading the page. That's good news in a way, since it means I don't lose work. --Cúthalion 07:35, 12 March 2007 (MDT)

Okay, that solidifies that it is a server side problem. Do you want me to overwrite this file tree with D&D Wiki's (the data would remain, but this site would be down for a few moments), and see if that fixes the problem? Actually, I'll just go ahead and do it. I will let you know what happens. --Blue Dragon (talk) 09:18, 12 March 2007 (MDT)
Let me know if you are still experiencing the problem. I have replaced the file tree structure with that of D&D Wiki's, however the configuration is still the old one. If this does not work, then I will see what I can do about diffing and then replacing the configuration. --Blue Dragon (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2007 (MDT)
I thought you'd done it -- I just went a couple of hours without a problem. But then it did it again. This is different from what I had before, where it never went more than a few minutes before acting up. --Cúthalion 21:59, 12 March 2007 (MDT)

BD: I just had a possible insight into this problem. I did a minor edit on Template:stub, which is on practically every page on the wiki. When I saved it, the server took longer to return than ever before, at least 30 minutes. So, I wonder if there's a configuration setting that's telling it to modify affected pages as soon as something changes, and it's freaking out. It's even possible that D&D Wiki uses the same setting, but I haven't noticed the problem because I don't modify core components.

Preferable options, in order of desirability, would be:

  1. Update all affected pages as a low-priority background job.
  2. Update a page to reflect changes only when it is loaded (could combine with #1).
  3. Update a page to reflect changes only when it is saved.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that #3 is what's supposed to happen, but I can't find the reference. I have plenty of empirical evidence that changes are, in fact, happening immediately.

Does this help? --Cúthalion 12:17, 24 March 2007 (MDT)

P.S. After around 30 minutes, I interrupted the loading of each page using the "Stop loading" button. When I tried to load a page a minute or two later, it loaded right away. I've tried this trick before, and it hasn't helped. I still think we should try exorcism. --Cúthalion 12:17, 24 March 2007 (MDT)

Hello Cuthalion. MediaWiki is designed to handle these problems using option number 1. It does change the page when it is saved, but for templates it does the changes as a low priority background job. This is very good to know, for a few reasons. First of all, I thought that you were waiting 10 seconds not 30 minutes. 30 minutes is ridiculous, and therefore this problem's priority is raised on my TODO list. I am going to experiment with moving it to another database system, and see if that changes anything. I know that the server is not bogged down -- it is beneath .5 load average pretty much at all times. I also know that the processor is not stuck working on something, looping over and over - there are four processor cores, and none of them are stuck at 100% for 30 minutes! I am going to begin to actively monitor the error logs and even usage logs for WikiRPS and see if I can figure anything out. Hopefully a database configuration could fix it, but I am also going to have to make a few template changes and see if I can isolate the problem even further. Thanks for this help, and I will work on this problem with a bit more energy now! — Blue Dragon (talk) 20:26, 24 March 2007 (MDT)
FYI, 2 to 5 minutes is more typical, but it's definitely a significant hindrance. Thanks for making it a priority. Please let me know if I can help. --Cúthalion 20:38, 24 March 2007 (MDT)
Hello Cuthalion. I have switched the database engine from InnoDB to MyISAM. The template that I was editing has seemed to save the edits without any lag now. Let me know if the problem has stopped occurring. It is better to use InnoDB, so if this has stopped the problem then I will look into why InnoDB was taking so long. Let me know if the problem has stopped, thanks. — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2007 (MDT)
BD: I haven't had any problems since you made this change. I haven't taxed the system all that hard, either, but enough to be reasonably confident it worked. Thank you. That was a major headache.
You'll have to decide how important it is to use InnoDB. Can you give me a brief idea why it's better than MyISAM? --Cúthalion 08:09, 26 March 2007 (MDT)
InnoDB supports locking for the tables, so if something bad happens there will not be any edit conflicts and the data will be preserved. It is just an added security feature, and if you have thousands of people editing the wiki and the server fails then InnoDB will preserve the data, and MyISAM will not. If this wiki becomes incredibly large, I will seriously relook this issue and get it working properly under InnoDB. For now, I am just glad that it works :). — Blue Dragon (talk) 16:40, 26 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Reverse interwiki

I can access the dandwiki: namespace from WikiRPS, but I haven't figured out how to do the reverse. Is it possible? I would expect one of the following to work from www.dandwiki.com: WikiRPS:About wikirps:About

Thanks. --Cúthalion 21:45, 7 March 2007 (MST)

Interwiki fields have now been added to D&D Wiki. The interwiki link is "wikirps:". --Blue Dragon 15:39, 9 March 2007 (MST)
Excellent! Danke. Now, if I can just remember why I wanted it ... --Cúthalion 21:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)

[edit] Block list

BD: It appears that blocking users is a bureaucrat job. Is that correct? Would you be willing/able to copy the blocked user/IP list from D&D Wiki, and the spam blacklist while you're at it?

Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:03, 8 March 2007 (MST)

Hello. Blocking users is a sysadmin job, not only a bureaucrat job. Bureaucrats only have the extra powers of making other users sysadmins. --Blue Dragon 15:36, 9 March 2007 (MST)
Oh. Okay, so it's a Blue Dragon job. :) --Cúthalion 21:04, 9 March 2007 (MST)

[edit] Uninstalled Math Package

I'm looking at:

http://wikirps.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup&returnto=Main_Page

I get the error message:

Failed to parse (Missing texvc executable; please see math/README to configure.)

Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:13, 7 March 2007 (MST)

I'm guessing this is related to the inaccessibility of LaTeX functionality, demonstrated at Category:Trait#Physical_Traits. According to Wikimedia, "To have math rendered, you have to enable it in LocalSettings.php." --Cúthalion 21:13, 8 March 2007 (MST)
Math has been installed. However, Category:Trait does not use the math package. --Blue Dragon 06:31, 9 March 2007 (MST)
How would I get it to do that, or is it even possible? --Cúthalion 21:05, 9 March 2007 (MST)
I am sorry, but it is not possible with the links. If you were to remove the links and wrap it in a >math< tag then it would be formatted, but it would come out as a picture and it would not have any links. --Blue Dragon 21:31, 9 March 2007 (MST)
Okay, this is a step in the right direction -- the login message now displays correctly. I can live without the links. Do you see offhand what's wrong with Sandbox? --Cúthalion 21:58, 9 March 2007 (MST)

[edit] New Math

BD: The package is installed and working -- mostly. Check out Category:Physical Trait. I realized I had accidentally left "10 +" in most of the formulas. When I take it out, I get the "Failed to parse" message that I presume you're also seeing. Even more bizarre, if I take out the first "1" and just leave "0 +", I get the same error message. Does that make any sense to you? --Cúthalion 06:59, 15 March 2007 (MDT)

I am not seeing this problem. Does it still exist? --— Blue Dragon (talk) 20:50, 15 March 2007 (MDT)
No, it's gone. I was about to thank you for fixing it. Curiouser and curiouser ... --Cúthalion 22:01, 15 March 2007 (MDT)
May I ask how you got the package installed using a GoDaddy server? Do you have an quick step guide? --Mwilliams 16:28, 18 August 2007 (MDT)15:25, 18 Sept, 2007 (PST)
Sorry, I must have been very confusing about which registrar I use. I use GoDaddy as a registrar, but I run this server on one of my own private servers, so I have root and physical access to the machine. Sorry for the confusion. I am also not sure exactly what you mean, so if you want any help just clarify and I will be more than glad to help! — Blue Dragon (talk) 07:44, 23 August 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Upload broken

I clicked on "Upload file" and got:

Upload file
The upload directory (/home/wikirps-dandwiki-com/public_html/w/images) is not writable by the webserver.

Thanks. --Cúthalion 09:39, 15 March 2007 (MDT)

Fixed. --— Blue Dragon (talk) 20:50, 15 March 2007 (MDT)
Thanks. :) --Cúthalion 07:43, 16 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] ImageMap

I'm trying to specify an image link, and failing miserably. (See attempts in Template:Imagelink.) One suggested method uses Extension:ImageMap. Am I correct that we don't have that installed? How hard would it be? Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:17, 15 March 2007 (MDT)

Added. --— Blue Dragon (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] External image link

BD: Thanks, I'll let you know how the ImageMap goes. In the meantime, would you mind looking at external link format? I'm guessing all the boxes under "What it looks like" are supposed to display images, but all I see are URLs. Do you see the same? I'm wondering whether that has something to do with our configuration, or if there's something else they forgot to mention. --Cúthalion 07:43, 16 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Debugging Template:Imagelink

Would you mind helping me debug? See: Template_talk:Imagelink#Testing. Thanks. --Cúthalion 08:52, 16 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Extension:CategoryTree

Hey, could we get Extension:CategoryTree? It looks really helpful. Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:55, 18 March 2007 (MDT)

Added. — Blue Dragon (talk) 12:23, 18 March 2007 (MDT)
Hmm. Did it work for you? I went to Skill and clicked on the [+] next to Skill, easy. It said "loading" for several minutes (the other problem, no doubt), and then I got:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
Bad Request

unknown function wfSajaxSearch
--Cúthalion 18:04, 18 March 2007 (MDT)
Red herring. The error had nothing to do with the extension. It shows up in any window when I type anything into the search box. --Cúthalion 18:09, 18 March 2007 (MDT)
Correction. It happens whenever I take long enough entering search text that it brings up the status message, "Waiting until you're done typing..." --Cúthalion 18:11, 18 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] More interwiki links

See Wikipedia:Interwikimedia link. Would it be possible to get some of the rest of these installed? I'm particularly interested in m:, mw:, and wikt: (along with long forms for completeness). Could we also make a two-letter shortcut, say, wt:, which does the same as wikt:? Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:55, 18 March 2007 (MDT)

I added all of Wikipedia's interwiki links to this wiki. Have fun! — Blue Dragon (talk) 12:37, 18 March 2007 (MDT)
All right! Now I can send people anywhere in the world, locally. :) --Cúthalion 17:57, 18 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Persona non gratis

BD: I've formally rebelled against your brother's death grip on the D&D Wiki. If you need to withdraw your welcome, I understand. Thank you for all the help you've given. --Cúthalion 07:17, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

Hello Cuthalion. Green Dragon puts a lot of time into D&D Wiki. You should understand that he likes things certain ways, and some things he does not like. Many of the issues on D&D Wiki are decided by popular vote, and I am positive that he does not consider himself a dictator over the site. Your contributions are appreciated, and honestly, he was probably just upset a bit because he thought that you were making a D&D Wiki v2 by yourself. You should realize that he was mistaken, and just let the stupid comments that he might have made go by. It will make D&D Wiki a much better place for both you and for him. As to WikiRPS, I have no intention of taking it down nor of taking back my welcome. — Blue Dragon (talk) 13:28, 23 March 2007 (MDT)
Thank you for the encouraging words. I'm sure I'm overreacting due to other factors in my own life.
It's fine if someone wants to put a "stub" banner at the bottom of a page and explain how someone could augment the contents (or do so himself). That's entirely in the wiki spirit. It's not fine for someone to put a big, ugly banner at the top of the page saying it doesn't "meet D&D Wiki's quality standards". What visitor is going to keep reading after seeing that?
GD admitted that it's insulting, but instead of changing his behavior, he went and slapped on yet another ugly banner. I changed the pages to meet his most substantive demand, but he refuses to remove the banners until I meet all his formatting preferences, even though they're totally different from what was in the "new class" template.
I finally got fed up and decided I'd rather not have the pages up at all if he's going to deface them like that. But, of course, I couldn't delete them, so instead I just deleted the text and left a request for deletion on the talk pages. GD responded by saying that's "spam". I figured that was a not-so-subtle threat that he's getting ready to ban me from the site.
You say he's not a dictator, but the evidence I've seen doesn't back that up. He's made it clear time and again that nothing changes on the site without his approval. (I'll look up examples if you want.) The first thing a new user sees is a message from GD saying that he is "the owner of the site", and you shouldn't make any significant changes without checking with him first. Perhaps that's not the intent, but that's how it came across to me -- particularly when he followed up with a message stressing that I should only do what he wants, the way he wants, and that he'll patrol every change to make sure it meets with his approval.
Then there are the follow-up messages he sends after practically every edit, saying that such-and-such was formatted wrong, or was in the wrong place, or violated some other commandment. Who other than a control freak would go into talk pages to correct people's indentation?
Finally, there's the fact that half the pages on the wiki are locked so only sysops can edit them. That is totally out of line with the wiki concept. Apparently someone got the idea that OGL content can't be modified, when, in fact, the OGL quite explicitly states the opposite. But it's not just the OGL; contents pages and new page templates are other examples. It all gives the strong message that this site belongs to the sysops, and the rest of are just here as guests. Do you know how many times I've decided to ignore a typo because I don't want to bother asking a sysop to correct it? (I don't know, either, but it's a lot.)
You'll notice on WikiRPS, only legal pages are locked for sysops only, and a handful of infrastructure pages are restricted to registered users only. I suppose it's inevitable we'll eventually need a "wikify" template, but I hope we can find less offensive wording, and limit it to egregious offenses.
(Goodness. I just stumbled across the formatting discussion. Now I have to decide whether I want to get involved, or be conflict-avoidant.)
There's a part of me that says, D&D Wiki is his brainchild, and he's obviously put a whole lot of effort into it, why shouldn't I just accept that he has the right to be a control freak if he wants to? That's where outside factors enter into it -- my tolerance for control freaks is not very high right now.
Okay, I'm done venting. I'll probably just stay off D&D Wiki for a while until I'm not so defensive. Thanks for listening, digitally speaking. --Cúthalion 15:24, 23 March 2007 (MDT)
You definitely have a point, but I am not going to take any sides. I feel that in a few days this whole thing will be settled. I have talked to Green Dragon about removing the ugly banner and just putting it in a category (this is happening to a lot of pages, not just yours), and he has agreed but said that he needs to have other people's input in the community. I completely understand where you are coming from, and it is not unjustified. Hopefully everything will be settled soon. — Blue Dragon (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] P.S.

What's that about my starting a D&D Wiki v2? Did I express my intentions poorly? Why would I go through all that effort just to duplicate something that's already been done? --Cúthalion 15:24, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

Your intentions were not stated poorly, Green Dragon's interpretation of them were. I recently explained to him that it was a completely new gaming system, and after that his opinion changed. He likes the idea a lot, and is planning on waiting until it is more mature to look at it thoroughly. The confusion was not due to you at all, but it was the driving force behind any initial attacks that were made to you. Again, I really think and hope that everything will settle out soon! D&D Wiki and WikiRPS really will be much more powerful if they are in good relations. — Blue Dragon (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Export

BD: I'd like to get an export of the entire (sub-)wiki. The export utility requires me to list every single page name. Is there another way? Thanks. --Cúthalion 07:20, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

I would be glad to give you an export of the wiki. However, please rest assured that this wiki will not be taken down, and the data is backed up nightly with the rest of the server's data. If you want to move off of D&D Wiki's servers for some reason, then I will be happy to help you move the wiki. However, I would like to restate that it will not be taken down, even if you and Green Dragon get into an argument. Let me know what format you wan t the export to be in, if you want one. — Blue Dragon (talk) 13:30, 23 March 2007 (MDT)
I wouldn't move the wiki elsewhere, unless you (pl.) disown it. As far as I'm concerned, it's community property. I just happen to be the main contributor so far. :)
Mainly, I just had the vision of suddenly losing access to all the work I'd done over the past few weeks. Since you assure me that won't happen, I guess there's no reason to make you do that extra work. But thank you for offering. --Cúthalion 15:24, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Color request

BD: At your convenience, could you please modify the skin so that div.notice has the same background color as the categories box? Thanks. --Cúthalion 20:55, 26 March 2007 (MDT)

Hello Cuthalion. Sorry for taking so long to respond, I did not see this comment on my talk page for awhile. I do not see a div.notice anywhere in the CSS that is server side (`grep -r ".notice" .` returns nothing), so either respond to this so I can see the message box that you are talking about or just let me know what it is. If it is div.notice, then I will be happy to add that CSS entry to common.css. — Blue Dragon (talk) 14:43, 5 April 2007 (MDT)
Thank you for responding. I'd actually forgotten about this. The div is at: MediaWiki:Common.css#Notice blocks. However, check out: MediaWiki_talk:Common.css#Background color. I'd rather have the ability to use the existing background color in a new style definition, if that's possible. Short of that, I'll settle for adding div.notice to the skin. (div.stub probably isn't necessary.)
Thanks. --Cúthalion 15:06, 6 April 2007 (MDT)
See the above talk. Let me know what you want. — Blue Dragon (talk) 00:08, 8 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] cite.php

BD: It appears that we don't have cite.php installed. Is that correct, and could we get it? Thanks. --Cúthalion 15:09, 6 April 2007 (MDT)

P.S. You can look at Table: Attack/damage type to see if the installation works. --Cúthalion 15:41, 6 April 2007 (MDT)

Installed. — Blue Dragon (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2007 (MDT)
Excellent! Thank you. --Cúthalion 11:25, 9 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Basilicus Interwikimedia link

BD: Would it be possible/convenient to create an Interwikimedia link to Basilicus? Perhaps [[basilicus:]] and [[bas:]]. Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:40, 19 April 2007 (MDT)

Hmm. Apparently the connections are already there, e.g. Brilliand. So, I guess all I want is [[bas:]] as a shortcut for [[wikia:basilicus:]]. --Cúthalion 18:28, 19 April 2007 (MDT)
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.06 sec) :) (and you were correct, I had not seen this). — Blue Dragon (talk) 15:42, 20 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Wikicommons shortcut

While I'm at it, could I get [[c:]] as a shortcut for [[commons:]]? Thanks. --Cúthalion 10:48, 19 April 2007 (MDT)

iw_prefix c has been added to the interwiki table. Have fun! — Blue Dragon (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2007 (MDT)
Thanks, that's great. Did you also see the previous section?
A follow-up question: Empirical evidence would suggest that I can't link an image on w: or c: using Image. I can always copy them to WikiRPS, but it would be preferable to link the existing copy, as I do on D&D Wiki. Do you know whether that's possible?
Hmm. Could it have something to do with enabling external images? --Cúthalion 17:29, 19 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] New users

  1. Thanks for the user log. That's worth having.
  2. I don't think that will help me with my goal of putting an automatic welcome message on the talk page of each new user. I left a message for Green Dragon asking how he does it.
  3. Do we have Extension:New User Email Notification installed? Could we get it? I'd like to receive new user notifications.

Thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:03, 29 April 2007 (MDT)

Hello. I believe that Green Dragon does it manually, but I might be wrong. I have now installed New User Email Notification, be sure to modify the new MediaWiki pages that will configure it. Have fun! — Blue Dragon (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2007 (MDT)
Yeah, that's what he said, too.
Thanks for installing it. That'll make it less likely I overlook any newcomers. Did you set $wgNewUserNotifTargets=Cuthalion? I understand that has to be done within LocalSettings.php.
Thanks again. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:01, 30 April 2007 (MDT)
I have added $wgNewUserNotifTargets = "Cuthalion"; to LocalSettings.php. Let me know if it works, or if there are any problems. — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:47, 30 April 2007 (MDT)
Will do, thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 22:16, 30 April 2007 (MDT)
Hmm. I notice someone (presumably you) created User:Test User. I did not receive a new user notification, although the entry did show up in the User creation log. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2007 (MDT)

[edit] MediaWiki:Accountcreated

You could edit MediaWiki:Accountcreated. Presumably that message, which defaults to "Account Created," will appear to anyone who creates an account for the first time. With a bit more work, perhaps it could even be made to automatically make that user post a particular message on his own talk page, although that might be a bit silly. --Brilliand 00:10, 1 May 2007 (MDT)

Thanks for the tip. I'll probably have to create a dummy account soon, just to see whether all these things behave the way we're guessing. It's a shame they don't provide an index for all their little bells & whistles. (At least, I don't think they do.) –Cúthalion (talk) 07:44, 1 May 2007 (MDT)
I found that information at Special:Allmessages. I'm pretty sure that that's an index of everything the MediaWiki namespace can do. --Brilliand 21:15, 1 May 2007 (MDT)
Yeah, that's a great list, but it's not always clear how the messages are used. For instance, you said: Presumably that message, which defaults to "Account Created," will appear to anyone who creates an account for the first time. However, it could just as easily be a message that appears to the Bureaucrat after he adds a new account, or a message that gets sent in an email to Bill Gates. The only way to know for sure is to try it out. Some simple documentation would help. I suppose I should have said glossary rather than index. –Cúthalion (talk) 10:39, 2 May 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Register domain

BD: I'm considering registering a domain for professional and personal use. Do you have any suggestions how I should go about doing that? Thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:03, 5 May 2007 (MDT)

Hello Cuthalion. I personally use GoDaddy just because it is rather cheap and I started out using it. I have used various other registrars, including Network Solutions, XMission, and so on, but I have stuck with GoDaddy just because you can get good deals with them. They are not very expensive (around $8/year or $2/year with hosting plan), so you definitely have room to make mistakes. I would also recommend getting your domain for more than one year, because search engines normally regard year long domains as spam. I hope that this helps, and if you have any other questions, I will be glad to help! Good luck! — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:07, 5 May 2007 (MDT)
Definitely helpful, thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:11, 5 May 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Embedding external images

BD: I think I've convinced myself that we are not configured to allow external links.

  1. Is this correct?
  2. Is this a considered decision, or would you be willing to change it?

The relevant setting is:

$wgAllowExternalImages = true;

Thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2007 (MDT)

This has been changed. I did not realize that this was turned off, and I can understand how it would greatly destroy the whole point of a media repository. Thanks, and I will make the same change on D&D Wiki. — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:19, 5 May 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Broken redirects

BD: This is low priority, but when you get a chance, would you mind taking a glance at Special:BrokenRedirects? All of those redirects are fine, but the system considers a redirect broken if it uses an interwiki link. It would be nice if that could be easily fixed, but if not, don't worry about it. Thanks. –Cúthalion (talk) 21:54, 18 May 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Double redirects

Similar comment on Special:DoubleRedirects. –Cúthalion (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2007 (MDT)

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